Nicole Lamberson who will be familiar to many from Medicating Normal asked Barbara Connolly from Benzo Warrior to write a piece on Benzo Support Groups especially linked to Facebook. This was to fill a benzodiazepine shapeed hole in the DD and AA group post.
Nicole Lamberson asked me to write something about what a good benzo FB group can offer from the vantage of the Benzo Warrior Community (BWC). I wouldn’t dare speak for other psychotropic drug support groups as FB groups are of such varying quality and can have somewhat different purposes. Last I checked there were something like 60 different benzo support groups on FB, of which I only regularly follow a few of the larger ones and a couple dedicated to specific smaller needs. One of those groups, Beating Benzos, was mentioned in that Daily Telegraph article – See DD and AA Group comments.
BWC has approximately 3,000 active members currently withdrawing from or recovering from a benzodiazepine, and often other psychotropics as well, and many more “alumni” who have recovered enough to no longer need the active support of the group. I would say that the first and most important function we provide is to extend loving support and connection to those going through withdrawal and BIND (benzo-induced neurological dysfunction or protracted withdrawal), as our members are rarely getting the support that they need from the medical system or even from family.
BWC provides extensive guides which are something of a blueprint for recovery as the person injured by benzos will have to contend with a host of symptoms and issues that are difficult to understand and not well -addressed by psychiatry or general practice medicine. Obviously it’s not a replacement for individualized medical care and does not constitute medical advice in any way, but the guides are at least a good starting point for information.
BWC uses the most credible information currently available for its guides and for sharing with the group generally, so that will include for example information from the Benzo Information Coalition, the Alliance for Benzodiazepine Best Practices, The Colorado Consortium for the Prevention of Prescription Drug Abuse, Easing Anxiety and the Benzo Free podcast, Dr. Jennifer Leigh, and Jennifer Swantkowski, PhD.
Like other FB groups, BWC is also a clearinghouse for members sharing their own experiences during benzo withdrawal, and we do this with a large admin team in order to better make use of our cumulated anecdotal experiences as well as to take advantage of a wider range of experiences and skill sets. The admin team, all of whom have experienced benzo withdrawal, responds to all of the member posts so there are always at least a few experienced eyes answering questions around the clock and providing information, support, or encouragement. We’re able to quickly connect members with information from our guides that pertains to their particular circumstances, which is probably helpful for those who aren’t thinking clearly enough to read through extensive material or do research, as is often is the case with our members.
The group is searchable, so that if members identify an issue they want to know more about, it’s generally possible to quickly find other members who have dealt with the same and have some ideas on what did and didn’t work. It has to be said that a limitation of a group focused around trading anecdotal experiences is that there is going to be misinformation, and the user will need to be highly discriminating. Our admin team does what they can to temper that effect but it will never be perfect. I would never be participating in such an effort had the medical system not so completely failed me and so many of our members in this area.
Besides what can be done within the confines of a FB group, BWC offers weekly facilitated support Zooms for its members, with a focus on coaching, connection, and coping skills. Those meetings are currently twice a week for two hours each. Also as an add-on to those Zooms we host a virtual speaker series of doctors, survivors, coaches and others with pertinent lived experience on recovering from benzodiazepines, which we run for informational and motivational purposes. We’re extremely grateful for the generosity of all the speakers who have contributed to this series and to the enduring resources that those recorded talks provide, available publicly on the Benzo Warrior Community youtube channel.
Especially through that series, we do try to keep open a feedback loop between doctors, researchers and lived experience in the hope of stimulating collaboration. We’ve prioritized the creation of communities of recovery through these virtual meetings, which certainly do facilitate peer support in a tighter knit way than any FB group alone could,
BWC also has 24/7 text chats, which mainly serve to provide companionship and target those early in their benzo experience, those further along in recovery, and caregivers.who have their own separate space. The chats are kind of a mixed bag as they tend to be dominated by those having extreme symptoms or early on and very dysregulated by their experiences,so it would be fair to say that those chats scare off as many or more people than they help- because of that it’s an ongoing challenge to match members with the forms of support they need while encouraging them to stay away from the things that aren’t helpful.
On what makes these groups endure, I’ve spent a year and a half working full-time managing BWC and I can say that these groups only work well if individuals who’ve had a rough time with benzo withdrawal and BIND stay around to help newer members, as the experience and knowledge base proves critical. There’s ongong need for those who have recovered substantially to stay back and help, and because this is a difficult ask after such a traumatic experience and quite time consuming as a volunteer effort, we’re chronically short in this area and therefore working to leverage what little those mostly healed folks are able to offer. This a hole we see also filled by coaches as those people with long experience in the benzo community understandably need to be compensated for their knowledge and support in order to remain working in this space.
I hope this helps, and of course I’m happy to answer any questions.
mary H says
Barbara, thank you very much indeed for your detailed account of the wide scope of Benzo Warrior Support groups. The amount of work that goes on is absolutely astounding – I congratulate every single one of you involved in this fantastic work.
I can appreciate the many hours that are dedicated, by your team, to this important work and am sure that there are very many thankful members out there who have been led to a better life by having your excellent support.
I wonder if there are any members – past or present – who would agree to write a comment about their experience within your group? Positive stories of recovery from any of these prescribed drugs would be inspiring I’m sure.
Maybe we could have a similar post from a Facebook Antidepressant group? Reading about the success of other groups would inspire those of us who run our tiny groups for, after all, we are all doing this for the same purpose – to support those in need and, hopefully, to warn others of what horrors can happen on such “medications”. With an ever-increasing number of prescriptions being handed out to younger and younger individuals, I’m sure that we all feel the need for our messages of the dangers to be heard. Also, though, it is, surely, equally important to share the fact that there is the hope of recovery even for the most unfortunate.
Bernadette says
Where do I get help and support
mary H says
Hi Bernadette, a lot depends on the type of “help and support” you are looking for. If you are looking for help in planning withdrawal from prescribed drugs, then I’m sorry but I can’t help you there.
If you are looking for general ‘support’ from others going through similar experiences on prescribed drugs and ‘help’ in the form of a realisation that you are not alone in your fight, then our zoom group could provide just what you are looking for. We are in North Wales but location matters very little when it comes to meeting by zoom, as long as you live somewhere that our meeting time is sensible for you too. We meet fortnightly on a Wednesday evening. If you would like more information then please reach me by email at: ellen.hennessey@btinternet.com and I will be in touch.
annie says
Help and Support…
Guise vs. Disguise
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BOB FIDDAMAN
@Fiddaman
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Apr 8
Remember when leading psychiatrists opposed this public information seen on the London underground? Why would anyone, of sane mind, object to saving lives?
https://twitter.com/Fiddaman/status/1644674420961603585
recovery&renewal Retweeted
John Read
@ReadReadj
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5h
Services for People Withdrawing From Antidepressants | Psychology Today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/psychiatry-through-the-looking-glass/202303/services-for-people-withdrawing-from
These recommendations, by hundreds of patients who have been badly let down by their doctors, precisely echo the recommendations of the comprehensive Public Health England report in 2019. However, the NHS has still not put in place a single specialised withdrawal service, helpline, or training programme for doctors. Meanwhile tens of thousands of people are turning to Facebook groups, all over the world, for support and guidance, to fill the void left by mainstream services.
Mark Horowitz
@markhoro
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How many people have been able to safely come off an antidepressants over 4 to 8 weeks without major withdrawal problems and without needing to switch to another medication or add one on?
annie says
Best not to let this run away – Katinka pens a piece, and it is highly likely ADHD will come in to any group…
The Pill that Steals Lives, author, Katinka Blackford Newman
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pill-That-Steals-Lives-Antidepressants/dp/1786061333
ADHD drug Ritalin affects the brain like cocaine – so why is it being prescribed to children? Experts say prescriptions have rocketed as Prince Harry, Ant McPartlin and Sue Perkins join wave of celebrities with condition
By KATINKA BLACKFORD NEWMAN FOR THE DAILY MAIL
UPDATED: 13:14, 11 April 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11957869/Experts-sound-troubling-warning-number-people-given-stimulants-rockets.html
Great to see Katinka, write a well-researched article penning her way to matters other than SSRI withdrawal. SSRI withdrawal led her to create
https://www.antidepressantrisks.org/team
Helpful to all groups…
MM says
The BWC throws people out of the private group and blocks them. Knew Michelle and was a moderator for awhile. Knew Lenard. The protracted people don’t really have a place to go. The lady who runs Beating Benzos threw me out of all her groups as well. Rosalind? Her husband, who doesn’t seem to have a medical background, does personal taper schedules. Um, I get that doctors don’t know how to taper, but this guy is giving medical advice with no medical expertise. Does he have medical credentials? No one answered that question. I was trying to share my experience in their groups and was sticking up for people who are protracted who get told their story is “too scary” and “you’re the minority”. The BWC also failed when it came to diagnosing me with Akathisia. I was told by everyone, including medical professionals, that I had “rebound anxiety”. The whole “wait 6-18 months and you’ll feel better” bs was told to me over and over. Kept telling people I’ve never had anxiety this bad. Like a ct off Klonopin and opioids unleashed it. Before that I had been ripped off my meds and polydrugging happened yet again. Was hoping to take LESS meds. Reinstatement of Klonopin a month out could have helped stop the Akathisia. Yeah, I know, it’s 50/50. You really never know. Went two years with Aka before I figured it out. Made the mistake of telling my doctor and he ripped me off Latuda too fast. Didn’t get Aka from being ON a med. When I told him my Akathisia was worse, the guy said to just stop the taper and ct the rest. When I was WORSE, the guy acted like I was crazy asking “do you have covid??” Uh, I’m clearly having withdrawal. “Latuda Withdrawal” is a thing even though it’s a newer drug. Think the only group that tolerates me is LWA and I’m on post approval. Those are the worst people condition wise. And if you talk about Aka in these groups it causes like a commotion and people tell others crap like “only a minority” will develop Aka from Benzo withdrawal. People freak out. I’m not allowed to talk about the disorder I have from being sent to detox to get off Klonopin and opioids. Someone may have the same problem…undiagnosed Aka can kill people. I have Akathisia now for years. No it’s not manageable, no the treatments for Akathisia don’t work when you get it from withdrawal. I’m legitimately trying to help people to forget what I’m going through. These people may come into these groups looking for help like I did. Like why are these disorders not being researched or talked about? You talk about people staying to help out. I tried and was told I was scaring people. I’m sure this is going to be frowned upon and I’m guessing I’ll get a nasty email for speaking out and up about my experience with these groups. I get it…I’m opinionated and question things, I probably come off as some random crazy chick. I’ve been around since 2018. Like I know how to research and I know basic tapering. Have read parts of the Ashton manual. I’ve got the basics down.