Editorial Note: This post that neatly ties together drug induced violence and dependence and withdrawal, the theme of the next few posts, is by Mickey Nardo. It featured on OneBoringOldMan a few weeks ago. It has a ring of a Raymond Chandler novel. Hence the image and the postscript.
It was towards the end of today’s clinic. He was a big guy, friendly, seemed neither anxious nor depressed. He had come to have his meds refilled. He was on Paxil 60mg in the morning and Remeron 45mg at night. He launched right into his story:
He had always worked Construction, but when the housing market crashed, so did his livelihood. He couldn’t find work anywhere. His [sort of] wife was out of work as well. He got depressed and was started on Paxil 10 mg by a nurse practitioner. When it looked like he was going to lose his house, he went into the breaking and entering business for the first time in his life. After some early successes, he got caught in the act and found himself with no [sort of] wife, no house, and a five year prison sentence. I asked how the Paxil dose had gone from 10 to 60 milligrams. He asked me if I’d been to prison [first time I’ve ever been asked that]. But what he wanted to explain to me was how boring prison life can be and wondered if I already knew.
He said, “It’s like a grammar school playground. A bunch of guys with nothing to do except watch t.v., eat, and get in fights with each other. When you get in a fight, you end up on solitary for a few days. And I got really depressed in solitary so the doc increased my meds.” That happened several times, and up went the medication dose. I asked if they gave him medications on solitary, but that was what he’d already figured out on his own – that it was withdrawal symptoms. “But by the time I figured it out, I was on 60 —-ing milligrams.”
The Remeron had been started because of insomnia, something he had never had before. His description of the withdrawal symptoms was classic, down to the brain zaps [for which he had a more colorful but less printable name]. He had tried to come down on the Paxil dose, but invariably got the symptoms late in the day and so he took the skipped pills. He would squirrel away a half pill here and there to build a “stash” in case of getting sent to solitary, and he had definitely learned to avoid fights. He was terrified that he wouldn’t be able to get the medication. The withdrawal symptoms were that bad. And he was convinced that he’d never sleep again without the Remeron.
He had already given a few hints along the way about how to proceed. He was on two drugs with withdrawal syndrome possibilities, one he knew about – Paxil. So Paxil seemed the place to start. His own attempts failed at “the end of the day.” With the short acting drugs, people taking them only once a day often get evening symptoms and I even wondered if that was part of why the dose was so high [and maybe even wondered if that had something to do with the Remeron addition].
Something I’ve learned is that if one comes on too strong with the tapering meme, the patients get scared go elsewhere to someone who will just write the refills. So I suggested that the first order of business was to get him to a twice daily Paxil dosing. Move a half pill to the afternoon every week or two. When I explained why, he liked to idea. Once we got to a twice daily dose [30 mg twice a day], we could start a taper with less fear of evening withdrawal symptoms. And if half a pill doesn’t work, I told him to try moving by quarters. But the real point is that he seemed to be on-board once he felt comfortable I wasn’t going to “cut him off.”
My own experience is that you are often flying by the seat of your pants tapering these drugs. And I’ve found that it’s always important to convey that you’re not going to pull the rug out from under the patient. The other thing is that if I can engage the patient in the enterprise, they often find schemes on their own you wouldn’t have thought of. For a few patients, they never get off. For others, it’s a long slow process. And then there are many who can get off pretty quickly once they see that it’s possible to come down on the dose. But the rate seems to be a physically determined individual difference. Certainly, this is not a majority phenomenon. Even though I try to taper everyone, many just stop on their own with no problems. I know I can’t tell in advance who will fit into what group. I’m absolutely sure that most of the difficult cases are like this – where withdrawal has been misunderstood and some clinician has chased symptoms with escalating doses.
He seems pleased as punch to be out of prison and I doubt he’ll ever go back [even as I wrote that, I remembered that my track record predicting criminality has not been stellar]. But I’d bet the house that his illness started as situational and is now iatrogenic [caused by his medications]. I know nothing about SSRI being associated with non-violent crime, but who knows if that Paxil had something to do with his later life new profession?
I wish I could say that this was an unusual kind of case. It’s not at all unusual. I spend a surprising amount of time trying to figure out how to deal with medication messes like this. Because of time pressures, there’s not a lot of psychotherapy of any classic sort going on in the clinic, but I do have time to do a reasonable diagnostic evaluation though it’s often spread over multiple meetings. With the coming of Obamacare and Medicaid, I now see more patients that I can refer to local therapists, who will accept the low fees [if you don’t send too many] – and there are some decent ones around. While it’s an irony that a way overtrained psychoanalyst spends so much time untangling medication snafus, I actually kind of enjoy it. If it were a full time job, I think I would meet Mr. Burnout quickly, but it isn’t [a full time job], and I don’t [feel those burnout signs and symptoms that say “time to move on”]. I would love to live in a world where the medications were mostly solutions rather than frequently the problem, but for now, it just is what it is…
Down these mean streets
Describing what makes a Philip Marlowe, Raymond Chandler put it like this:
“Down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor—by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world.
“He will take no man’s money dishonestly and no man’s insolence without a due and dispassionate revenge. He is a lonely man and his pride is that you will treat him as a proud man or be very sorry you ever saw him”.
“The story is this man’s adventure in search of a hidden truth, and it would be no adventure if it did not happen to a man fit for adventure. If there were enough like him, the world would be a very safe place to live in, without becoming too dull to be worth living in.”
Difficult to find a better description of Mickey Nardo.
mary says
What a refreshingly light-hearted post – but with a serious storyline that too many of us recognise from real life.
Bernard Carroll says
I’ll second that about Mickey Nardo. For starters, I am in awe of his output. Plus, he hits the target consistently. Someone to be reckoned with!
Johanna says
Locking up people with serious mental illness is one of the worst aspects of the US prison-industrial complex. Some of us worked for years just trying for a ban on the death penalty for offenders with severe mental illness. It took till 2005 or so for NAMI to sign on — and I was genuinely grateful, as some mental-health advocates wouldn’t even go that far. In the past year or so this has suddenly become a mainstream concern, maybe even the “moderate” prison-reform solution du jour. I shoulda been happy. Why wasn’t I?
Dr. Nardo has helped me figure it out: First of all, unless we’re talking about truly trivial offenses mainly tied to being homeless, it’s possible most “mentally ill offenders” won’t be getting out of prison at all — just dosed with psychiatric drugs in prison. That’s already a trend growing out of control as this man’s plight makes clear. Second, the number of US prisoners said to have “mental illness” keeps expanding with the level of mainstream “awareness” — from 10 or 15%, to 40% or more by some accounts. Especially if you count people like Mickey’s patient.
That makes me think the issue is being used by some to let our (truly insane) prison system off the hook. It’s likely this man was never part of “the Mentally Ill” in any real sense–he was just human. Solitary confinement and crowded, dehumanizing prisons without work or education programs will drive any of us humans a bit over the edge. Drowning the problem in Paxil or Seroquel won’t change that.
mary says
The UK story would read rather similar to your account of the US scenario I regret to say Johanna. I suppose that many prisoners who are classed as “mentally ill” have that label when, truly, “definitely not physically ill” or “mentally damaged by presc. drugs” would better fit the bill. Our son, when jailed (having been damaged by presc. drugs as we found out later) was shocked to see the queue for medications each day – mainly for psychiatric drugs and his comment was “If I shouldn’t have been sent to prison then the majority of the men in here shouldn’t have been either – they need proper support not more and more pills”. Same goes for street drugs in prisons here too – easier to supply the need rather than support the dependence with therapy. What a sorry state of affairs.
annie says
It is probably safe to say that Prisons and Mental Hospitals are the greatest offenders.
Mary, you have your sons prison experience and I have a Mental Hospital, experience..the queues for the morning ‘medication’ trolley being the one place where it is all on the table, dished up, daily, with not a murmur of dissent from the drugged..
Down these Mean Streets is a wonderful evocation of someone who’s almost daily digest keeps us informed with wit and humour…..
IBOM and RIAT…“Here’s looking at you, kid”
Thank you, Mickey Nardo, sensational achievements..not sure about ‘your support network’..
Sandra Villarreal says
In United State prisons there is a blog on Jpay called When Prisoners Become Patients, it’s a blog where people/family can voice concerns. And this is a very, very big concern.
Apparently our prison system has a ‘Forced Drug Withdrawal Program’. What this means is that when you loved one is incarcerated, and the family can’t afford to put or keep money in his prison account, then that inmate goes without his medication since he isn’t able to pay for it. Going into Forced Withdrawal.
This is the sickest, most tragic, inhumane way to treat our prisoners. In fact, I can’t believe that it’s even legal, but it’s very legal.
annie says
Sandra, don’t you think ‘forced’ withdrawal is happening in UK Surgeries and Hospitals because PIL leaflets describe every form of side effect that ‘Doctors’ don’t read and anyone can meet a ‘Doctor’ after being told ‘See your Doctor’ on the PIL Leaflet repetitively.
Why should ‘Doctors’ in Prisons be any more unaware than any other ‘Doctor’ in a hospital setting or a medical practice setting than anywhere else.
Indeed, ‘forced’ withdrawal all over the UK and Ireland has led to many instances of Death from Withdrawal..a day, a week, a month, and, Sandra, violence in prisons is seen as acceptable ‘power for the course’ prisoners are violent….and so is the ‘course’ of all ~Anti~De~Press~Ants~ which Pharmaceutical Companies Hide Behind..with their PIL leaflets.
Being in a Prison setting off on one from withdrawal is horrific, but, living in your own property with your own life and it happening, is that worse?
GlaxoSmithKline have buried many children, put people in prison, put people in winning legal cases…so, prisons, show it up more realistically, but, is this any answer..to PILs..?
It all comes back down to ‘Doctors’ whose self regard is wholly for their own benefit.